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Post by Andrew_Hibberd »

The no metal armour was added because it is not needed, like the first antweight rules, as the spinners had the tip speed removed then metal armour was introduced.

This is for beginners entering antweights, how many robot (not just ant) builders had 750psi+ pneumatics or a spinning disc?

The blades is complicated, avoiding all sharp edges would elimiate all problems of Johny being cut, but anything requiring a sharp blade would need to be quite complicated- such as a crusher, which a beginner would not produce 8)
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Post by Adam Hargreaves »

to be quite honest, how much cheaper is a SuperAnt gonna be? You're still talking ?70 for radio gear (if buying 3 channel) or ?30 for a weaponless SA, with 2ch radio... so a weaponised SA wouldn't really work out that much cheaper anyway... (here speaketh the voice of experience)
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Post by paul »

i agree it may not be that much cheaper but i would also be easier (bigger in both size and weight) and you wouldnt need to much (specialised) micro equipment which is where alot of the cost comes from.
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Post by Simon Windisch »

Sorry, I realised that I hadn't made my point.

What I was trying to say is that we need to trust the roboteers, or if they are small then their parents, to deal safely with dangerous objects.

Anyway, I would go for

1. Weight = 250g for rollers
2. Weight = 375g for walkers
3. Size = 6" (150mm) cube
4. Metal weapons are permited
5. No rotating weapons
6. Pressurised weapons limited to 100psi
7. No metal armour
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Post by Andrew_Hibberd »

Simon, i didn't fully understand the point, but yes it should be up to parents for saftey. Those rules look ok, but would need some clarification and someone to say ''these are the rules''

Adam, a cheap 2 ch 27mhz set and 2 standard servos could lead to a ?50 SA

Craig, you have a point with the rules being not much different from the antweight rules, but apart from the SUPER ant idea of having a new weight class the idea is to introduce beginners that have the standard parts from a radio set before being able to afford the small ant sized parts
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Post by Remote-Controlled Dave »

I built my walker, Meat, in 2hours, very easily, from standard equipment, including a huge battery pack and massive servos. I already had the transmitter, so, total cost was ?30. I dont see there any difference in price between the 2 classes, the Superants are there for other reasons.
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Post by Raizor »

Andrew_Hibberd wrote: This is for beginners entering antweights, how many robot (not just ant) builders had 750psi+ pneumatics or a spinning disc?
Maddox's first ant would have been full pressure only during development the stupid 100psi rule was employed. And now his first antweight will have a spinning disc.

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Post by Flippt »

This is for beginners entering antweights, how many robot (not just ant) builders had 750psi+ pneumatics or a spinning disc?
Maddox's first ant would have been full pressure only during development the stupid 100psi rule was employed. And now his first antweight will have a spinning disc.
Then I might add that he meant both adult that can make money and youngsters that rely on their money they been saving since christmas and their birthday.

Maybe we need a soft start for SUPERtants, as we did with original antweights.
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Post by american roboteer »

We cant go back in time to the days of simpler ants and my opinion is superants are just like any weight class be it flea, ant, middle, light and even heavy just the weight and size are different.

Why limit the class to just kids what next no combat just drive around your oppenant and the arena. When robotwars was going alot of robot teams included some kids most watched their robot get totaly destroyed by razer or hypno disc its no diffrent than as it is now. As for spinner rule without it nothing is gonna pierce that lexan armor even more now that can really layer it on with the extra weight allowed. Do we really want two robots fight almost invunerable to each others attacks


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Post by Andrew_Hibberd »

Well almost yes, fights don't last long enough, especially with beginners comming up against the more experiance builders. This is to encourage the building of ants by beginners. Not the destroying of slightly cheaper beginners robots
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