Rule 2b) size limit
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Re: Rule 2b) size limit
I think I agree with you Peter, now I understand it all.
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me too really. it makes sense. i just did because i knew it'd been done before and at the time it was considered legal . i now aggree that it's not really a fair method of expansion so i've built a new robot instead of the expanding one.
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Aww isn't it lovely when we all agree . Hugs all round!
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It is good when a concensors can be found but I do quite enjoy a lively discussion as long as it stays civil and freindly.
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Re: Rule 2b) size limit
Nice debates are always welcome. We do spend a lot of time debating rules though. I look forward to the day when all rules are set and the forum is just pictures and videos of new projects and everyone is happy with our warmongering hobby...won't happen though!
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I actually really like that we're debating rules a lot recently. It's something I've felt we should do more for a long time and it's nice to see. Not because I think rules should be constantly changed or updated, just that discussion is a far healthier option than "leave it alone because that's how it's always been", which appeared to be the dominant opinion until relatively recently.
It's also really good to get discussions on things that are possibly ambiguous - like the topic of this thread - concluded on the forums rather than have to have an argument at an event about whether a robot is legal or not.
That said, I of course also love logging on and seeing pictures of and information about people's creations.
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It's also really good to get discussions on things that are possibly ambiguous - like the topic of this thread - concluded on the forums rather than have to have an argument at an event about whether a robot is legal or not.
That said, I of course also love logging on and seeing pictures of and information about people's creations.
I enjoy all of the posts.
Everything is awesome .
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Re: Rule 2b) size limit
So is this rule going to be enforced this way at the next AWS? If so, I've got a bit of thinking to do. Does seem logical but I have always thought the rules referred to a physical cube.
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That's a difficult question. If this is a rule we were looking to change, I think it would be most fair to not enforce it at this AWS as people would not have time to prepare. However, it is not; it is simple a misunderstanding of the intention or specifics of a previous rule. One could argue that as this requires a specific interpretation of the rules to be taken as correct in order to be allowed, it's the sort of thing that should have been asked and clarified before designing a robot with the feature. However one could also argue that because this has been allowed in previous AWSs without being raised as an issue, it would be safe to assume it would be allowed in the future also.
I'd be interested to see your scenario, and use that to help judge what kind of effect enforcing this (or not) would have on your robot. I'd also be interested in hearing other's opinions as I'm a bit on the fence about this.
I'd be interested to see your scenario, and use that to help judge what kind of effect enforcing this (or not) would have on your robot. I'd also be interested in hearing other's opinions as I'm a bit on the fence about this.
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that's a point. giANT would need a catch or something to hold that big ramp underneath. i love that robot! so innovative with the rubber ramp and the big wheels are cool!
i too like the friendly debates hence why i am often a participant. i like to see all different viewpoints and so on. i do hope the new rules can be officially put in place soon though.
i too like the friendly debates hence why i am often a participant. i like to see all different viewpoints and so on. i do hope the new rules can be officially put in place soon though.
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Team Hectic.
Many antweights
Super antweights: territorial.
Fleaweights: fleadom fighter, gaztons.
Featherweights: hectic (under construction)
Team Hectic.
Many antweights
Super antweights: territorial.
Fleaweights: fleadom fighter, gaztons.
Featherweights: hectic (under construction)
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I think for the next AWS it'll be kept to what was allowed last time will be allowed this time for this, as its 3 weeks away and not really fair notice.
I'm also a bit on the fence like Scott. Ultimately, I'd like to see more ingenious solutions to the problem, but not sure that's a reason to enforce it seen as it hasn't caused an issue thus far. A big bit of folded acetate isn't exactly an automatic advantage - its extra weight, extra bulk and is often got under anyway as its more prone to knicks and kinks.
However I do think that the rule in place may already prohibit it.
Two minds. Happy to let it lie at least for now though.
I'm also a bit on the fence like Scott. Ultimately, I'd like to see more ingenious solutions to the problem, but not sure that's a reason to enforce it seen as it hasn't caused an issue thus far. A big bit of folded acetate isn't exactly an automatic advantage - its extra weight, extra bulk and is often got under anyway as its more prone to knicks and kinks.
However I do think that the rule in place may already prohibit it.
Two minds. Happy to let it lie at least for now though.
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