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Postby alasdair » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:47 pm

Thanks andy.

I have found that the range of the infrared emiter i have is approx. 5 meters! A bit long! I need something like 4cm!

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Postby slurp » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:03 pm

I found this quite some time ago (it's helpful to Minisumo too):-

http://www.micromouseonline.com/files/m ... arratt.pdf

It's one approch to IR wall detction.

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Postby alasdair » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:27 am

slurp wrote:I found this quite some time ago (it's helpful to Minisumo too):-

http://www.micromouseonline.com/files/m ... arratt.pdf

It's one approch to IR wall detction.

Best regards,
colin


Cheers Colin. That was an interesting approach which i may look into with another mouse, but i think that this one will be simple, as i already have boards.

This question is aimed at peter: Where do you get those boards which you use as edge sensors on your sumo? If i can find the specs then i may use them as wall sensors on my mouse.

The new mouse is going to be called:
Hellbound 2- To hell and back again. :evil:

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Postby peterwaller » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:41 am

When you say board if you mean the PCB I etch them myself the component I use is
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=12709

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Postby alasdair » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:43 am

peterwaller wrote:When you say board if you mean the PCB I etch them myself the component I use is
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=12709


For some reason the maplin site is down. :cry:

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Postby alasdair » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:11 pm

I think i could maybe use an opto isolator to do this- It would work would it not?

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Postby peterwaller » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:36 pm

No with an opto isolator the sender / receiver are completely internal no light goes in or out of the device. It is just a way of separating two circuit entirely while still passing a signal between them.

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Postby alasdair » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:10 pm

Oh, i have just looked up what they are and you are correct, they are not what i am looking for.

I have just gone onto the Photo-reflector that you posted peter, as the maplin site has only just come back online. Do you know the range? (i have no experience in opto electrnics so i will need some help!) :D

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Postby peterwaller » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:26 pm

The Maplin devices I was using was just to detect the edge white ring at about 5 mm. (very short range)

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Postby alasdair » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:30 pm

Thats good. What voltage and Ampage can i put into them before they blow?

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Postby slurp » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:53 pm

alasdair wrote:Thats good. What voltage and Ampage can i put into them before they blow?


If you look at the Specification portion of the page the forward current is the usual you'd expect for an LED 20mA, but I'd expect 10-15mA is OK. The forward voltage (Vf) is 1.7V

I guess you know the calc for current limiting resistors.... if not look here:- http://www.minisumo.org.uk/EdgeDetection.php

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Postby alasdair » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:30 pm

Thanks colin.

Peter, i am working on your board at the moment on PCB Wizard. Where do you get the optical array on the right of the schematic? ( i need to find dimension for the pins etc)

I am working on my sumo bot before i start my mouse. :D
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Postby peterwaller » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:10 pm

Actually it is not a single physical array just individual senders and receivers.
The senders are SFH4580
The receivers are SFH3500FA
I had never noticed that the layout package had for some reason incremented the part numbers.
They are made by Osram and I bought them from Farnel but they don't seem to do them any more which probably means they either dropped them when the ROHS legislation came in or the newer version has a different part number.
Just looked on RS and they have the senders
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/sear ... rm=sfh4580
But only have the SFH3500 receivers which do not have the built in daylight filter.
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/sear ... rm=sfh3500
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Postby alasdair » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:12 pm

peterwaller wrote:Actually it is not a single physical array just individual senders and receivers.
The senders are SFH4580
The receivers are SFH3500FA
I had never noticed that the layout package had for some reason incremented the part numbers.
They are made by Osram and I bought them from Farnel but they don't seem to do them any more which probably means they either dropped them when the ROHS legislation came in or the newer version has a different part number.


Ah. I will search for them around the 'Tinternet' :D

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Postby BeligerAnt » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:16 pm

Irritatingly Farnell changed their part number of every part when RoHS versions came in, even if the manufacturer didn't change the part number!
Search for IR emitters and photodiodes or phototransistors and make sure you get the same wavelength for each. You should be able to find 3mm or 5mm parts.
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