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Mark: I appreciate the advice, but I know what I was doing. I had the robot upside down under 2 layers of a thick towel, with a tube leading out. Despite the force of the tank failing being enough to break the chassis, the towels barely even moved.

It's also not really possible to test with water, as I'd have no way of getting it back out again. The tanks can't be dismantled as they're epoxied together, and the pipes are only 2mm ID. It would be nigh impossible to get them completely dried out. However I believe I do have a way to test the tanks without them being in situ now, so I'll make sure they're fine before putting everything back together.

Part of the fun of antweights is that often, you can't just get an off-the-shelf solution which you know will work. You have to bodge things together yourself using parts that are either designed for a different purpose or are completely custom made. This obviously means that there's going to be some more risk involved, but as long as you don't rush things and are careful, it's much more rewarding. I'd obviously not be advising this if we were talking about using compressed Co2 at much higher pressures, but with the antweight pressure limit only being 100psi, common sense and a reasonable safety precaution such a couple of layers of a towel are going to be sufficient.

Haz: I'm just going to glue the chassis back together once the pneumatic system is working and installed. It'll be a bit weaker, but I'm not spending money on a re-print for a design that might not even end up being effective :P.
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Scott did the glue fail on the Ali or on the HPDE?
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I'm happy to say I've finally got Flux in some kind of state that resembles working order - it's just awaiting acetate:

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After the previous catastrophic failure I tried a couple of times to rebuild the failed tank, but had multiple leaks and failures in the process (including the other tank popping, although less dramatically than the first). I finally realised what I was doing wrong when Andy suggested that I use superglue instead of epoxy. I had assumed that epoxy would be the better choice as I'd believed the bond would be stronger and it would set better in the gaps, but it turns out that the flexibility offered by superglue means that it will adapt to minute changes in materials as the components are pressurised and depressurised, which is something epoxy won't do.

I was still having a few leaks with superglue, and it was becoming a pain to try to find where the leaks were, because I'd designed the chassis badly so that the pneumatic system couldn't come out as a whole. I decided to cut some holes in the chassis to allow this to happen so that I could test the system and get it fully leak-proofed externally before installing it. This made the chassis weaker and more bodgey, but it was worth it.

After multiple attempts I've now got it to a state where it's pretty much working - there's still a very small leak somewhere but to fix it I'd have to remake a part, which I can't be bothered to do. I had to get rid of the top armour due to weight, as well as cutting out big chunks of the chassis. I didn't leave room for a switch or the battery plugs, so they're sticking out of the top looking ugly. I'm utterly fed up with pneumatics though, and I think when it comes time for a redesign of Flux I'm going to look into kinetic or spring-based systems.

As a bonus, here's a picture of Void 9, as I didn't have one before:

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This is exactly the same as at the last AWS, except for I replaced some stripped gears in the servo. I was generally very happy with how it performed - it was just my driving that let me down - so I didn't want to make any changes to it for this one.

I'm also working on a new spinner (not Zenith) which will BLOW YOUR MINDS. Maybe. A little. But won't be ready for this one, unfortunately.

See you all Saturday!
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Still a great looking thing Scott. You never know, maybe it'll all go well on the day.
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As you may have guessed from my thread in the Wanted forum, I've been wanting to convert a Firestorm toy into an ant. I've been working on it for the past week and this is where I am so far:

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It's all running, I just need a to figure out a connection for the flipper (since I don't want to drill through the plastic and make it look less like Firestorm) and then do a bit of cosmetic work, and it's all done.

However even with me using a metal-cased metal-geared servo and the biggest batteries I could fit in, it's still only weighing in at about 80g, so I'm going to have to try and fit in a load of ballast somewhere, which will be hard as the body is so small and is already full of stuff. I'll be sticking some steel shim on the front though (to match the metal front the real Firestorm added in later series) so that will help a bit.
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you could bring it down to 75g and then make a/some cluster partner/s for it and enter then as a clusterbot.
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Well I could enter it as a cluster even if it wasn't 75g :P. But no, I'd rather get it up to weight and enter it on it's own. I did consider trying to make it a flea, but unfortunately the toy's body is just slightly too wide and slightly too long to fit in the 3" cube.
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Scott don't do clusters. I'm sure he'll get it up to a decent weight. Its really cool. The original Firestorm was only 64kg in an 80kg world and still came 3rd, so its a fitting tribute. How about another servo to jack the front up like the original had at one point?

I hesitate to ask what you're naming it, seen as terrible tradition dictates combining Firestorm and a word meaning small into a clumsy pun...
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I considered having a lifty front, but decided to keep it as simple as possible. Current working name is "Emberstorm", but I'm open to suggestions if anyone has a better idea? :P
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Oh god, don't say that! Nothing fills me with more dread on robot forums than the phrase "I'm open to name suggestions".

Last time Rory said that with his nano spinner, someone suggested Nano Blade. Nano Blade! What is this, Catchphrase? Say what you see? Aaarrrggghhhh!

Ok, I'm fine.
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